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Then & Now, Teton Valley Land Prices

May 14, 2016 By Tayson Rockefeller Leave a Comment

Teton Meadows, 2007I was posting a few signs last week, and noticed an old (2007 or so) subdivision sign at Teton Meadows. In a way, it’s a testament of where prices once were. If you can’t read it, it says “Lots Starting at $265,000”. Yes, those were the old days. The height of the market, just before the bubble.

Then, the downturn. It would be hard to average prices at the worst point of the market, there just weren’t as many sales. Great Teton View Corridor lots went from 200k, to 50k, overnight. There was a lot of talk – PRICES WILL NEVER GET THERE AGAIN.

Or will they?

The bulk of our recovery and market stabilization cam over the last 24 months. In my opinion, and speaking in generalities, I would say we are 25% up, from the bottom. Look at market reports (you can check out the market reports tab on this site) and you will find that data shows a 30% increase in sales prices over the past 12 months. Based on this info is it feasible that prices will increase another 30% by this time next year? While I tend to agree (barring inflation) that prices won’t reach that 2007 mark, here are a few arguments as to how it might get close;

  1. I’ve seen a few outstanding sales (MLS #’s 15-2321 & 15-1331) in excess of 100k. Yes, these are some of the prime lots in their respective developments, but pretty big numbers nonetheless.
  2. Supply and Demand. I will do a “Then & Now” post for residential examples throughout the region in upcoming posts, but if you haven’t noticed, the residential market has exploded. We are nearly 100% recovered. Why? low supply and high demand. You will hear people talk about a thousand year supply, and that there are 400 residential lots on the market – but the always has been. That’s right, even in 2007, or 1999, there always has been a large supply. Prices go up, and they go down. The supply when talking just number of lots, has remained relatively close to the same. Remember, it’s a large valley. There are large Teton View Corridor lots, in-town lots, City subdivision lots, golf community lots, farm & ranch parcels, and so on.
  3.  Cost to subdivide. This is a key point. In a continuation of item 2 above, remember our market is comfortable sustaining a large number of lots on market at all times. To sustain that supply, there has been continual development and growth. There was obviously heavy development in the 2007 era, but has been virtually “none, zero, zilch” since. We do have a good supply (and reserves), but it won’t last forever. The “Teton Valley Dream” will go on. People from all over the world will buy and sell lots, to own a small piece of our valley. In any case, the fear of “over development” has created a difficult environment for future development. By difficult, I mean difficult and expensive. New requirements in place for environmental testing, fire suppression requirements, etc.

The above said, and like always, the good lots always sell first. It’s not uncommon to see a 60k sale, and a 100k sale in the same development. There is a large supply of good lots, at prices substantially less than years’ past. Speculation? Of course, it always is. Do I think it’s a good time to buy a good lot? Yep.

 

Can homeowners associations fine me for violations?

May 8, 2016 By Tayson Rockefeller Leave a Comment

No FeesHomeowners association (HOA) violations have been a Hot Topic lately. Whether it’s the HOA acting outside of their authority based on interpretation of the development bylaws or restrictions, or imposing unreasonable fines for violations.

In 2014, Idaho legislators reported numerous complaints of homeowners associations providing unreasonable notice or demands or even fines for non-compliance of the HOA guidelines. There were circumstances in which subcontractors were hired to remedy issues or violations, and even though the HOA contracted with the subcontractor, bills were sent directly to the property owners.

To combat these scenarios and to protect homeowners, the legislatures set requirements in place to require procedures for homeowners associations to follow when working with violations.

During my continuing education course on the topic I was able to obtain information from the Senate Bill, provided by the course instructor at the Idaho real estate school.

That bill number 1310 from the Senate states:

(2) No fine may be imposed for a violation of the covenants and restrictions pursuant to the rules or regulations of the homeowner’s association unless the authority to impose a fine is clearly set forth in the covenants and restrictions and:

(a) A majority vote by the board shall be required prior to imposing any fine on a member for a violation of any covenants and restrictions pursuant to the rules and regulations of the homeowner’s association.

(b) Written notice by personal service or certified mail of the meeting during which such vote is to be taken shall be made to the member at least thirty (30) days prior to the meeting.

(c) In the event the member begins resolving the violation prior to the meeting, no fine shall be imposed so long as the member continues to address the violation in good faith until fully resolved.

(d) No portion of any fine may be used to increase the remuneration of any board member or agent of the board.

This bill is relatively straightforward, my interpretation is simple. You cannot impose a fine as an HOA unless authority to do so is set forth in the Covenants. Then, a majority vote by the HOA board is required prior to imposing any fine. A written notice of the above vote must be delivered with 30 days notice to the homeowner. In the event that homeowner even begin resolving the violation, notifying can be imposed as long as the homeowner continues to address the problem until it is resolved.

April ’16 Market Stats

May 7, 2016 By Tayson Rockefeller Leave a Comment

April '16 Market Stats

What’s it cost to build a house around here?

April 25, 2016 By Tayson Rockefeller 4 Comments

Home Construction in Driggs, IDA couple of years ago I did a post on the cost of construction. It was really geared towards the question of why we weren’t seeing much in the way of new construction. Residential real estate market has recovered a fair amount since, yet we still aren’t saying much in the way of new construction.

Why???

***If you want to skip the story about my project, skip down to the numbers section towards the end of the post.***

Recently, I completed a small home (576 Sq feet, plus a loft) in downtown Driggs. I kept a very thorough expense ledger. I tried to keep track of every expense possible, even miscellaneous trips to the hardware store. (you can’t keep track of all of ’em)

I categorized my expenses the best way I knew how. I am not a builder. Oftentimes I went home and studied YouTube videos or how to’s. My friend Kane with Old West Log homes was probably about sick of my questioning as well.

I didn’t really plan on building the house myself. I wanted to be the general contractor, check up on things with periodic trips from the office when I had time, and keep track of my expenses. I thought I would stay relatively close to my budget, complete the home by mid August, and go on with life.

Hahaha…

Things started out reasonably well, until I discovered that my sewer line was an old asbestos line with no easements. Fortunately I have some good neighbors who were willing to provide those easements, but it did cost me a fair amount in excavation work to get all of the new lines installed as you will see. Setback, oh well. Foundation went smoothly. I put the sealant on the outside, the excavators backfield, built me a driveway, and we were moving along nicely.

Setback number 2, things didn’t work out with the framing contractor I chose to work with. Nice guy, it just didn’t work out. I noticed some things were a bit “off”. Out of plumb here, not square there. If you haven’t noticed from the way I kept track of my expenses, I can be a bit compulsive at times. I paid them for the work they had done, repaired or ripped out what I didn’t like, and thought what the heck – I had framing experience working summers during school, I’ll finish the framing.

Without going into too much detail, I decided it best to try to get back to the plan. Though the framing turned into me staining and siding the exterior, I decided I would hire a plumbing company to rough in the plumbing, and I have a good friend who is an electrician. I wouldn’t say I didn’t get my hands dirty, but I did pay people to do things believe it or not. Next came the insulation. You’ll probably think it looks a bit expensive if you are an experienced builder, but I did use some high-quality foam insulation in areas. Roof. I can do it. Sure enough, there I am with 25 foot long sections of roofing dangerously close to the overhead electrical lines common in Driggs. I remember when I was sticking the ice and water shield down there was extremely high winds that day. Of course.

Okay, I’m worn out doing things myself at this point, time to hire out a few more projects. I double checked all of the blocking in my framing to make sure I had attachment points for things like cabinetry and handrails. I called in the sheetrock guys. They put up sheetrock so incredibly fast I couldn’t believe it. They had a tool called a “bazooka” where they taped the seams faster than I ever thought possible. Tape, texture, done. I had them hold the sheetrock down 3/4 of an inch so I could install my tongue and groove pine ceiling I had been staining in my garage this whole time. On that note, I pre-stained everything, both sides. All in my garage with an industrial airless sprayer. A bit of advice, put you’re ceiling up first, then drywall. I couldn’t really help it because I had set in motion the cabinet installer and some other things that needed sheetrock, but it sure made it a pain to install that ceiling. I was short on help working after hours after leaving the office, so I bought a little laser measuring tape so I could pull measurements myself.

Next was cabinet install, countertops, and finish work. Fortunately I had a great cabinet guy that did a good job. He was able to get things installed, the countertop guys came in without a hitch, no problems. I wasn’t excited to keep doing things on my own, and the project was really starting to drag out. However, the flooring guys I had lined out, and my trim carpenter bailed. Here we go…

I decided to paint first so I didn’t have to tape off the floors. Two layers of primer, two layers of paint. Next was the flooring. Thinset, hardboard, tile. I remember struggling with the in floor electric heat I put in the bathroom, what a pain. Back out with the airless sprayer to stain the interior trim and doors. I decided to save a little money and do pine. I also chose to do clad casement windows, and made the mistake of not masking them throughout the construction process. There I was sanding off dirt, grime, and leftover insulation. I taped off the windows, and stained the casements. The trim went up as the weather was taking a turn, and I didn’t have room for to take my saw inside. I remember setting up a little tent to protect the freshly stained finish trim.

I had a vacation planned with my family towards the end of November. It was taking a toll on all of us, and I was committed to completing the project before leaving on vacation, I think I worked until 4AM one night. The landscapers came in through October and installed the sprinkler system and sod. I think it was around November 1st when they finally rolled out the sod, but it took well.

***The Numbers***

I mentioned above that I kept pretty good track of everything I spent. A couple of things you would need to adjust for a real world application:

1) I didn’t have to pay a connection fee to the city of Driggs. Had I, the permit section below would be substantially higher, probably between 7 and 10,000. I did have to pay more for excavation than I had originally thought because the sewer lines were running through property without an easement, and they were old asbestos lines. I think you could call it a wash between what I spent more on excavation, vs the hook-up fees, assuming you didn’t have problems either.

2) If you read the story above, I did fair amount of the construction myself, therefore didn’t pay a general contractor or a fair amount of Labor. I will add those fees towards the end of the costs below.

3) I splurged on some finishes that really weren’t necessary with regards to flooring, granite, and a few other things. Siding could have been done less expensively, but I didn’t do any fancy stone, or log accents. I think I would call it a wash.

4) I built an incredibly small home. You will hear from most builders that it costs less per square foot to build a larger home for obvious reasons. The bulk of the expense goes into kitchens and bathrooms, it’s cheaper to build bedrooms. Since this is a one-bedroom cabin, I think the price per square foot would go down as the home size goes up.

Cost Breakdown

Plans
825

Engineering
***N/A, add per plan specifications

City Permits (does not include water & sewer hookups)
4537.42

Excavation
14178.61

Foundation & Misc Concrete
6109.67

Building Materials (Lumber, Flooring, etc.)
21181.72

Steel & Roofing
5063.19

HVAC (HRV System)
872.34

Propane Tank & Install (Leased Tank)
756.97

Plumbing (Parts & Labor)
7154.88

Insulation
5123.23

Labor (Electrical, misc help, rental equip, drywall)
10000.55

Windows & Doors
10960.40

Landscaping
5364.87

Cabinets
9936.43

Handrail Systems
3843.41

Flooring (Tile & Hard Board)
4377.14

Appliances
4622.33

Window Coverings & misc Finish Materials
1688.73

***Labor: This is the only wild card here. Since I did so much myself (some framing, misc projects, some electrical, ceiling, flooring, trim, siding, windows, cleanup) it would be hard to breakdown. I have heard ratios of 2:1 to 3:1 for materials vs labor. You will notice about 10,000 in labor above, which included drywall, tape, texture, electricians, and misc laborers.

Allowance for labor
15,000

Grand Total: $131,596.89

To summarize, I’m coming to the same conclusion I did a couple of years ago. The gap is narrowing regarding current home prices vs construction costs, but it’s still tough. I’m coming in at about $200 per square foot. Remember building a larger home will be less expensive. I spent a little more than I needed to  on certain things like cabinets, insulation, and  a few miscellaneous finishes like wood ceilings. I didn’t really well, but I did have the additional expenses with the excavation. Still, this doesn’t include the price of the land.

That said, do I think you could build a small house for significantly less than I did? Probably. Do I think you could build a 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom home for $100 a square foot? Personally, no.

I know there isn’t much on the market, we are all feeling the crunch. Regardless comma I am seeing prices less than 150 per foot, pre-existing, including a lot. That said, I do expect to see continued recovery.

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