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Roofs, Property Value and Peace of Mind

July 29, 2021 By Tayson Rockefeller Leave a Comment

A family friend reached out a few weeks back about the potential impact of a certain roofing system compared with another and how it might impact the value of their property down the line. It resonated with me as I am currently in the process of replacing the original roof on my 35-year-old home. My own experience has been somewhat tempestuous as we struggled with replacing an uncommon roof type and battling some significant damage we uncovered along the way. My home is an old family cabin that my wife and I have renovated over several years, and the old roof was an uncommon stone coated metal cold roof. We don’t have any plans to sell, so resale wasn’t on our minds. We wanted something that would blend in with the forest setting and perform well for a long period of time for the reasons mentioned above. Ultimately, we chose a very thick, shake-like asphalt shingle. We simplified the roof rakes and beefed up the Boston ridge to create a slightly more modern look, which we are happy with. In our case, we probably did increase the value of our home, and we are happy with the look of the new shingles even though we were concerned with it.

Anyway, when comparing the two roofing systems my friend was considering I didn’t feel one would significantly change the property’s value. In their case neither option would have been unusual for the home, but one was clearly more expensive. It was difficult for me to answer whether or not they would see a return on the investment for the more expensive roofing system. To answer the question, this is where I shifted focus to the overall picture. Sometimes certain home improvements, materials used or construction methods do not have a direct impact on a property’s value, but can when viewed in conjunction with the rest of the home and it’s finishes. I distinctly remember an incredible custom home of which the owner spared no change or effort throughout, but installed vinyl floors which was (honestly) just his preference. However, when helping him with the sale, it was a sticking point when comparing the finishes through the rest of the home on such a high dollar listing. Similarly, I remember walking through a property where the owner did some light renovations in anticipation of a sale. The fresh paint was great, but the Viking dishwasher felt odd to me. Yes, it was undoubtedly expensive and was certainly a talking point, but it didn’t fit well with the rest of the finishes and I don’t think that homeowner saw a return on that investment. The moral of the story, underdoing it and overdoing it are both bad, but in different ways.

Okay, if you’re still reading, on to the peace of mind part. I have probably written about this in other articles, but I wanted to touch on a few other considerations, particularly as we see new construction ticking up.

1) Snow slides. In my case, a metal roof was not an option. I have a wraparound deck that the snow would absolutely destroy in the event it were to slide off. My old roof never slid, and I hope my new roof never slides. In other cases, you want the snow to slide. Low roof pitches or shed roofs can be a good example.

2) Ventilate! I can’t think of very many circumstances where I would not recommend installing a ventilated or cold roof to help mitigate ice damming. This will usually include some form of screen or vent along the roof soffit and a vent in the gable ends or along the ridge of the home.

3) Ice Damming. Believe it or not, we get snow and ice up here. I believe code requires ice and water shield along the roof edges and valleys, but I usually suggest putting it everywhere, if you can. There are better ways to prevent ice damming as mentioned above in the ventilation section, but make sure you are protected in the areas mentioned and it never hurts to have the extra protection, particularly on roofs with a lower pitch.

4) Pitch. Speaking of pitch, be careful with this one. The modern, low sloping or flat roof systems are becoming more and more popular, but they can pose significant challenges when it comes to snow accumulation and ice damming. I’ll never forget all of the struggles I’ve had over the years with commercial building management where flat roofs with drain systems are common. The moral of that story, make sure you have heat tape in those drains, and monitor them closely. It doesn’t take long for these to plug up with ice creating a swimming pool on top of your roof.

As a final bit and disclosure, I’m a real estate agent, not a roofer. I have experience with some of these things, but am in no means an expert when it comes to the construction types and methods best for your situation. Always consult with your contractor and local roofer, and keep in mind our unique climate when it comes to architects. People tend to bring their local architect with them from dramatically different climates which can often lead to incompatibility with local contractors and issues with construction methods down the line.

Will Renovations Pay for Themselves?

May 29, 2021 By Tayson Rockefeller Leave a Comment

This article, like many that I have written over the past 12 or 14 months may not be as relevant one year from now as it is today, but I have given the same advice on many occasions throughout my career in real estate.

The question is (as I renovate my own home) is it worth it? In my case, I am updating a kitchen that is as old as I am, and was somewhat budget oriented to begin with. It’s not that I don’t care what it might cost, but rather, I do not care as much about the value it will add to the home as I don’t plan to sell anytime soon. If you have the same mindset, I say go for it. Generally real estate improvements will at least pay for themselves, unless you’re doing something that is highly specified to your style or needs.

What about for resale? In this case, it depends on the market, and particularly right now, timing. At the moment (and I suspect you have noticed) appliances, carpet, roof shingles, windows… everything is in short supply and high demand. Similarly, labor is in short supply and as a result everything is far more expensive than it was a few Summers ago. It’s a seller’s market today and timing, coupled with supply and labor shortages is not on your side. With this combination, my current recommendation would be to leave well enough alone (if it is well enough) with the exception of a few examples below. In markets where time and materials are easier to come by, I think renovations should be considered on a case-by-case basis. Either way, the examples below well usually equate to a net gain.

1) Paint, where it needs it. Changing the laundry room from green to blue probably isn’t going to make a huge difference, and your time might be better spent cleaning the basement. On the other hand, freshening up a small room with an out-of-date color or poor paint job isn’t a bad idea. Another important aspect to painting is quality – tape those edges and use a hard, fine line brush where you can’t. Prime over top of those dark colors, and always do two coats.

2) Appliances, if you need them. It’s hard to get rid of a great appliance, they don’t make them like they used to. That being said, there’s something about those quiet dishwashers and stainless steel french door refrigerators that buyers tend to notice. Again, add a month to whatever delivery time estimate you receive.

3) Your trade, but be careful with this one! We live in an area that provides skilled labor for high-end real estate and as a result many are capable of improving some aspects of their homes. Why careful? I have seen plenty of hardwood flooring contractors “showcasing” their abilities in their own homes. While the herringbone transition to a diamond pattern of oak and dark walnut is respectable in terms of the skill, it’s probably not what buyers are looking for. Keep it clean, don’t overdo it.

4) Clean, this one is free (kind of). Declutter, depersonalize and freshen things up. buyers open closet doors, pantries, garages. This one is huge, and it might even help showcase how big a space is that otherwise might look smaller than it is.

5) Kitchens, bathrooms… I’ll bet if you hop online and do a quick search, this is going to be the first thing that comes up. True, buyers love fancy kitchens and shiny new bathrooms – but it’s hard right now. Things will get back to normal, but even in “normal” times, getting work done in a rural/resort area like this is difficult and expensive. It always has been, and it always will be. On that note, it’s easy to blow the budget and not be able to recover all of, or as much of the cost that you had hoped. Also keep in mind that these projects are often like picking at a scab. It’s never as simple as, “let’s replace the countertops!” Further, I’ve heard buyers ask why a seller would put such nice countertops on top of old, out of date cabinets. That’s a loss in my book. If a customer is questioning an investment you’ve made, you may have been better served not doing it in the first place.

I’m sounding a little pessimistic, but it’s probably my mood after wrapping up my own project. To be clear, I would rather sell a house with a new kitchen and master bath, and you will probably net out positive. Just remember the timing aspect mentioned above. Note that in any market things are probably going to take longer than you had hoped, and cost more than you expected. The best thing you can do is ask for your real estate professional’s advice before pulling the trigger if it’s strictly to improve the value of your home before listing it for sale.

Land Inspections

June 13, 2020 By Tayson Rockefeller Leave a Comment

I’m not sure if it’s how busy things are or the increase in the number of land transactions equating to an increase of things I haven’t seen before, but I sure have seen an uptick of strange inspection findings. Over the course of my career, I’ve bumped into town parcels without connectivity to a sewer line, sinkholes because of buried cars, a number of buried fuel tanks, concerns over oil spills, hillside geotechnical concerns and more. As one might expect, I’ve also run the gamut with discussions on radon, bugs, covenants and restrictions, easements and so on. However, lately, I’ve even bumped into a few more. Bedrock preventing a typical septic install, extraordinary deep wells and artesian wells and springs are a few examples. One thing is for sure (although not as geographically interesting as Yellowstone), Teton Valley has some diverse terrain with nuances that one may not normally consider. I suppose it all depends on what one might be used to in terms of the nuances of their area, but even I would not have predicted bedrock in areas of the Teton Valley.

The above being said, it’s important to do your research. Remember that as agents, we are not experts in geography, terrain, practicing law, interpreting title and so forth. Real estate agents negotiate real estate transactions, and that includes negotiating due diligence and inspection periods for buyers to better understand and research the property they intend to buy.

Unfortunately, it’s almost impossible to plan for every situation that may arise when purchasing land with plans to build. One of the benefits (although not a guarantee) of purchasing a pre-existing home is the fact that many of the potential problems either did not arise, or have been resolved. Another tip to consider when buying land is purchasing in a subdivision. Although I have bumped into properties within subdivisions that still had special wetland requirements or septic problems, it’s less likely. With the growing demand for properties that are not in a subdivision, it’s important to also consider the fact that subdivisions have likely already been through a preliminary set of county or city required engineering reports, soil testing and so on.

The moral of the story, and the theme for many of my articles is; do your research!

Cold Roofs, Explained

June 19, 2018 By Tayson Rockefeller Leave a Comment

Due to popular demand, I’m going be writing more and more articles referencing some sort of construction and my experience with it in the real estate industry. Because of this, I’m going to have a new category and page where you can find all of these construction specific articles on my website tetonrealtyblog.com – “Know Your Home”.

Recently, a past client of mine who purchased a beautiful piece of land in Snow Crest Ranch wanted to sit down with me to get my opinion on construction methods. I assumed this would be for resale value or potential rental income with respect to a layout and design, but we talked more and more about construction methods and my personal opinions there. One of the topics was cold roofs, and their importance in Teton Valley. To be clear, not all contractors, people, or Realtors believe cold roofs are a good solution, so take my advice with a grain of salt, and make sure to consult with your architect and/or contractor.

First, what is a cold roof? A cold roof is basically a roof in which the insulation is above the ceiling of the home, but there is an air space between the insulation and the roof itself which is not conditioned or heated space. In most cases, this space is also ventilated to allow airflow between the insulation and the roof.

The primary purpose of a cold roof, particularly in our climate, is to prevent ice dams. Because most of the heat inside your home rises and “stacks” along the highest points of the ceilings, much of that heat and the moisture in the air along with that heat finds its way through the roof and into the attic space. Most people don’t realize that even latex paint is not a vapor barrier, it will allow moisture and heat to convect through the drywall and the insulation. If this heat doesn’t have a way to escape before it gets to the bottom of the roof opposite the snow sitting on that roof, it will eventually melt the snow. As the snow melts, that water turns to ice which creates ice dams, those gigantic icicles hanging from your roof eaves. Once this begins to happen, ice can freeze up and under flashing, and creep into areas it’s not supposed to be, often causing leaks on the inside of your home. There are other benefits to a cold roof, such as ventilation. As I had mentioned above, often times that warm air carries some of the moisture inside the home along with it. These ventilated spaces between the insulation and the roof allow this humid air to dissipate.

Depending on the style of construction, cold roofs are easier to achieve with some types of roof systems than others. For example, if you are planning on flat ceilings with vaulted ridgelines, you’ve got plenty of space for an unconditioned attic, adding vents in the soffits and along the ridge is an easy task. However, you might be building a shed style roof or perhaps your ceilings are vaulted inside to match the roof lines. In these cases, it can be difficult to achieve the required R-value if you reduce the thickness of the insulation to allow space for ventilation. One consideration here would be to use closed cell spray foam which has a higher R-value per inch. If you do this, make sure you work closely with your contractor and insulator to make sure that the foam is thick enough and the proper vapor barriers are in place as not to cause condensation problems.

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