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Land Inspections

June 13, 2020 By Tayson Rockefeller Leave a Comment

I’m not sure if it’s how busy things are or the increase in the number of land transactions equating to an increase of things I haven’t seen before, but I sure have seen an uptick of strange inspection findings. Over the course of my career, I’ve bumped into town parcels without connectivity to a sewer line, sinkholes because of buried cars, a number of buried fuel tanks, concerns over oil spills, hillside geotechnical concerns and more. As one might expect, I’ve also run the gamut with discussions on radon, bugs, covenants and restrictions, easements and so on. However, lately, I’ve even bumped into a few more. Bedrock preventing a typical septic install, extraordinary deep wells and artesian wells and springs are a few examples. One thing is for sure (although not as geographically interesting as Yellowstone), Teton Valley has some diverse terrain with nuances that one may not normally consider. I suppose it all depends on what one might be used to in terms of the nuances of their area, but even I would not have predicted bedrock in areas of the Teton Valley.

The above being said, it’s important to do your research. Remember that as agents, we are not experts in geography, terrain, practicing law, interpreting title and so forth. Real estate agents negotiate real estate transactions, and that includes negotiating due diligence and inspection periods for buyers to better understand and research the property they intend to buy.

Unfortunately, it’s almost impossible to plan for every situation that may arise when purchasing land with plans to build. One of the benefits (although not a guarantee) of purchasing a pre-existing home is the fact that many of the potential problems either did not arise, or have been resolved. Another tip to consider when buying land is purchasing in a subdivision. Although I have bumped into properties within subdivisions that still had special wetland requirements or septic problems, it’s less likely. With the growing demand for properties that are not in a subdivision, it’s important to also consider the fact that subdivisions have likely already been through a preliminary set of county or city required engineering reports, soil testing and so on.

The moral of the story, and the theme for many of my articles is; do your research!

Buying Land and What to Inspect

June 1, 2018 By Tayson Rockefeller 2 Comments

***NOTE: This article is intended primarily for Teton County Idaho and Teton COunty Wyoming. If you are purchasing land in surrounding counties, contact me for assistance.

Yes, inspect not expect. Before I dive into this, note that I cannot outline or detail every aspect or potential problem that may come with a particular piece of property. Below is general information which can be applied to any lot, but special inspections or considerations may need to be explored.

Oftentimes I get comments or questions from potential buyers with respect to buying land. It’s usually one extreme or another. For example, some buyers live in areas with soils that are not very permeable or along the coastlines. They have major concern about the viability of septic systems. The other extreme usually comes from buyers to haven’t had a bad experience and question whether they even need an inspection at all.
When buying land it’s important to remember that you probably aren’t going to be working with someone like a home inspector that you might contact when buying a home. Likely, YOU will be the inspector – or more accurately, the investigator.
With that said, where do you begin? The best place to look for recommendations for contact information is your real estate agent. Your agent should have a clear understanding of the Teton Valley Market and the nuances that come with buying land. They may not have run into every potential problem or experience that may come with buying land, but they’ve likely been through more transactions than you have, each one is a different experience. That being said, there are a certain number of key points, and the Idaho Real Estate Association tries to help you by outlining some of the potential areas to investigate. As of this date, the Idaho Purchase and Real Estate agreement states that a buyer can inspect any element of the property including size, boundaries, zoning, utilities, hazardous waste, and taxes. I might add building feasibility or eligibility to this list as well.
Before I dive into this list, it’s important to remember one last item that you may need to be aware of prior to even writing your offer. There is an increasing number of real estate agents who believed that the seller must grant permission to allow certain types of inspections. Primarily, I have run into test holes for septic site analyses. As a courtesy, I usually send a note to a seller’s agent and inform them that we will be performing this inspection. More than half of the time, the seller’s agent is up in arms with concerns about not asking permission and liability. I believe that the Idaho agreement covers this, but you may ask your agent to include language that they will allow these types of inspections.
With that said, let’s get started. As you read through these suggestions, remember what I outlined at the preface of this article, this may or may not be a complete list. There’s going to be special considerations with any property that potentially need to be explored.
***Please see the resources below if you would like to skip the summaries.
Recorded Documents: Usually when I write an offer, I will make sure that the review period expiration for the title report comes first and the actual due diligence (inspection) period expiration comes last. The title report will expose documents that are in the record such as subdivision covenants (CC&Rs) and plat maps.
Site Location, Boundaries and Size: MOST parcels are in a subdivision of sorts which means they will have an accompanying plat map. It’s important to remember plat maps can be amended. If you follow the order of operations, you should have the latest iteration of plat maps and CC&Rs from the title report mentioned above. If the parcel is not in a subdivision, a survey of record is still usually available. If it’s not, and you did not ask for a survey or at least corner flagging as a part of your offer, you can hire an engineer to complete these tasks. Corner flagging is usually under $500, where a survey can cost much more.
Zoning: If you are in Teton County, the County has prepared a one-stop-shop for zoning at tetonvalleycode.org. It’s a bit tough to navigate, but has all of the information you need. See the resources section, below, or visit tetonvalleycode.org.
Utilities (Well & Septic): In Idaho (and similar in Wyoming) you must have at least 1 acre to have both a well and a septic. That said, if you have a half acre, you can usually have a well or a septic. Oftentimes we see some creative thinking with developments that may be one half acre lots with wells, then the septic systems are in the open space of the development, or perhaps there is a community water system but each lot has it’s own septic. Packsaddle Creek Estates in Tetonia and Grove Creek in Victor are examples where the community has a water system, but each home has a septic. Wells vary in depth throughout the area, but the Idaho Department of Water Resources does track well depths and I am proficient with the tools they have available for research – so don’t hesitate. At the time of this writing, well costs are about 55/foot, with a pump. There are a few areas in Teton Valley where depths are extreme, usually at the end of 4000 N or on the North end of Teton Valley. Wyoming doesn’t have a tool that I am aware of, so I’m not up to speed on depths in certain areas. As far as septic systems go, they are relatively inexpensive to install, and reliable. The soils in most areas are of a rock or gravel substrate, so drainage is good. There are a few areas where “enhanced” or “raised mound” systems are required by the health department, those areas are usually in watershed areas next to creeks or rivers. This said, basements are relatively common in the area. The soils can be tested before completing a purchase, and the cost is in the range of $500 to $800. They are coordinated with the local health official and an excavator. The excavator digs a hole, the health official records the data, and they fill it back in. The process is usually referred to as a site analysis.
Utilites (Water & Sewer): Most areas rely on a well and septic with the exception of the Driggs, Victor, Tetonia & Jackson City limits and a few subdivisions which have city services but are outside the city limits such as developments like Teton Springs which have City sewer. Other examples would be communities with private water systems such as Rivermeadows in Victor and Targhee Towne in Alta. Each utility or service usually comes with a maintenance fee, or a monthly bill. Note that a failure in a community system would likely result in an assessment. Many see a benefit in a municipal system to avoid the cost of drilling a well or installing a septic – but beware – hookup fees can also be quite expensive, usually around 2/3 the cost of a well and septic.
Utilities (Phone & Internet): There are two main types of internet service in the area, and that is DSL or Fiber and Satellite. DSL is usually provided by the phone company (Silverstar Communications in almost all areas) and there are a handful of satellite providers. In my experience a hard line such as DSL or Fiber is most reliable, but some of the rural areas have old lines that have been dug up by farmers and road crews a few hundred times. The local phone company can easily to a check on the address and provide pretty accurate information. The counties required phone line installation to each subdivision lot in almost all cases, but it’s always good to check. There are a few developments out there that have conduit, but no line.
Utilities (Electricity): Electricity in Teton Valley and Alta is provided by Fall River Electric, Teton County WY (excluding Alta) is provided by Lower Valley Energy. Fall River Electric is a CoOp, so members get a nice check every 15 or 20 years (hey, can’t complain). The other good news is that electricity is very inexpensive, roughly $0.075 per KW Hr at the time of this writing. Just like telephone lines, electricity is to the boundary of almost all subdivided lots. Those without lines may require transformers to boost depending on the distance to the area where power is needed. In rare events, overhead power poles and lines can, or need to be installed.
Soil & Hazardous Waste: Most land buyers go as far as a site analysis for septic (see well & septic section above) but no further. If the parcel in question is in a wetland, it may be a good idea to contact the county mapping director to get an idea on nearby floodplains. Rarely a customer will do additional soil testing for hazardous waste – a good example might be an old junk yard or an area with buried fuel tanks. Usually these tests are performed by environmental engineers, and there are some great local companies.
Taxes: Usually when purchasing property the title company will pro-rate taxes to the date of closing. It may however be a good idea to have the title company (or you) contact the city or county to make sure there are no outstanding assessments for improvements.
Building Eligibility: I added this section as this has been a point of contention, specifically in Teton Valley, Idaho. Historic “illegal” lot splits, or land splits that were done only for agricultural purposes have been surfaced and recent administrations have denied the ability to obtain a building permit. Though these cases are becoming rare, it’s still possible. Other examples would be subdivisions with fire systems that are out of compliance. For these reasons, it is a good idea to check with the applicable City, County OR Fire Department to insure building permits can be issued.
***Resources: Note, I will do my best to keep this INCOMPLETE list up to date and accurate. If you are a contractor or vendor not on this list, contact me! I would be happy to add you.
Zoning
Teton County, Idaho (includes Driggs, Victor, Tetonia)
If you are purchasing land in one of the cities such as Driggs or Victor, they will have their own site and information which you may be directed to, cityofdriggs.org | victorcityidaho.com | tetoniaidaho.com FOR ALTA, it’s best to visit Teton County WYOMING’s website, tetoncountywy.gov.
Otherwise, the BEST resource for zoning information is Teton Valley’s one-stop zoning resource, tetonvalleycode.org.

Building Eligibility & Permits

Teton County, Idaho (includes Driggs, Victor, Tetonia)

Planning & Zoning

208-354-2593 (phone)
208-354-8410 (fax)
[email protected]

Teton County Building Department

208-354-2593 (phone)
208-354-8410 (fax)
[email protected]

Teton County, Wyoming (includes Alta, Jackson, Wilson)

Planning, Building & Development

307-733-3959 (phone)
307-733-4451 (fax)
https://www.tetoncountywy.gov/518/Planning-Building

 

Well Research

Water Well Research Idaho Department of Water Resources
http://www.idwr.idaho.gov/Apps/appsWell/WCInfoSearchExternal/
Eastern Regional Office
900 North Skyline Drive, Suite A
Idaho Falls, ID 83402-1718
P: (208) 525-7161
F: (208) 525-7177

 

Septic Research

Teton County, Idaho (includes Driggs, Victor, Tetonia)

East Idaho Public Health Department
http://www.eiph.idaho.gov/
Teton Valley (Savannah Rice)
208-354-2220
[email protected] 

Site Analysis Excavator suggestion:
Action Excavation
208-354-3478

 

Municipal Water & Sewer

Teton County, Idaho (includes Driggs, Victor, Tetonia)

driggsidaho.org
victorcityidaho.com
tetoniaidaho.com

 

Wetland Research

Teton County, Idaho (includes Driggs, Victor, Tetonia)

(Contact Teton County for Wetland Overlay first)

Army Corps of Engineers

208-522-1645
http://www.nww.usace.army.mil/Business-With-Us/Regulatory-Division/Contact-Us/

 

Wetland Specialists & Soil Testing

(For delineation analysis, etc.)
Rocky Mountain Environmental
208-524-2353
http://www.rockymountainenvironmental.com/

Intermountain Aquatics
(208) 354-3690
[email protected]
http://www.intermountainaquatics.com/contact/

 

Fire Marshall

Teton County, Idaho (includes Driggs, Victor, Tetonia)

Fire Marshall: Earle Giles III – [email protected]

 

Well Drillers

Denning Well Drilling:
208-523-4600
http://www.denningwelldrilling.com/

Andrew Well Drilling
208 522-2794
http://www.andrewwelldrill.com/

 

Water Testing

Teton Microbiology Lab
208-932-0215

Teton County, Idaho (includes Driggs, Victor, Tetonia)

Idaho Department of Quality:
DEQ Idaho Falls Regional Office

900 N. Skyline Drive, Suite B
Idaho Falls, ID 83402
(208) 528-2650
toll-free: (800) 232-4635
http://www.deq.idaho.gov/

 

Power

Teton County, Idaho (includes Driggs, Victor, Tetonia)

Fall River Electric
208-652-4731
(Wendy Celino for power line availability questions)
http://www.fallriverelectric.com/

Teton County, Wyoming (includes Alta, Jackson, Wilson)

Lower Valley Energy
307 733-2446

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Phone & Available Internet Speeds

Silverstar Communications
208-354-3300
http://www.silverstar.com/

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