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Guest Article: Lessons learned buying real estate in Idaho

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Author: Joe Mena – Victor, ID

As someone who moved to Teton Valley from a state where disclosing everything to buyers and home inspectors is mandatory, buying in Idaho was a big change. After a lot of discussions with TVR’s Tayson Rockefeller, I realized I needed to get serious about doing my due diligence, and I’m very glad I did. Eight years later, and countless conversations helping others make the move like I did, I hope that sharing my experiences here can help others for with everything from choosing the right land to the right builder and enjoying life to the fullest here in this wonderful place we call home.

Get to know Teton Valley

Home isn’t just the house you live in. It’s the community surrounding you, the history of those who lived here for generations, the culture they built, and the unique mix of people and personalities that makes every place so unique.

Before I started looking for land, my wife and I immersed ourselves in learning about Teton Valley. We vacationed here, rented homes for longer stretches of time, read about the history, subscribed to newspapers and magazines, and soaked up everything we could about life here. We developed a respect for the history and culture of this valley and moved here with a determination to become a part of it – not change it.

Choose the right Realtor

You don’t have to work with the first realtor you meet. Experience, personality, enthusiasm, honesty, and taking the time to understand what I really wanted were the factors that helped me decide who to work with. If you’re out of state, don’t be afraid to ask your Realtor to do boots-on-the-ground footwork for you. When I worked with Tayson and couldn’t be here in person, he walked different land/lots, shot video, and talked through the pros and cons to help me really “see” the land, even though I wasn’t there. It took a while to find exactly what I was looking for but having patience and persistence on the part of my Realtor won in the end, as we found exactly what I wanted.

Buying land

Land isn’t just about the acreage or the views. Before you buy anything in the valley, here’s the best advice I have: Make lots of calls. Research, research, research and don’t be afraid to do the work and ask lots of questions. Call county agencies, public health offices, and even local insurance agents for insights into the area. Talk to builders, well diggers, and excavators. Learn about water – yes, water – and how it affects the land. It’s like learning a new language: riparian wetlands, water tables, aquifers, irrigation channels, snowmelt, water rights, engineered septic, perc tests, etc.

In a valley that’s experiencing tremendous growth, realize that open space is gold and HOAs aren’t always a bad thing. If you’re looking at a subdivision with CC&Rs, ask for copies and read them thoroughly to understand what you’re getting into. Other things on our list that were important to us were high-speed fiber optic and paved or chipseal roads.  

Building a home

Take your time choosing a builder. Finding the right one might take a bit, but it’s worth it. Making sure you are working with someone who understands your vision, respects your budget, and has the experience and expertise to get the job done is non-negotiable.

Teton Valley is holding strong as one of the most stable and high value real estate markets in the country. This doesn’t mean you have to blow your budget or get into serious debt to build your dream home. I might get in trouble for saying this, but in my case I feel like you don’t always need the most expensive architect or surveyor for your project either. We found plans online and worked with a local architectural draft and design firm to customize those plans and get what we wanted. Much less expensive that way!

Another tip when building your home is to listen to the experts. Yes, your builder knows what he’s talking about, but so do the subcontractors who each have their own expertise. One sentence I found myself repeating over and over was “If this was your home, what would you do?” I’m smart enough to admit that I don’t know everything and was happy to listen to their advice and ideas. In the end, pick what’s right for you, of course. A few times we actually had to talk our GC into doing something more expensive, but in the end we had the house we loved and had incorporated ideas we were so glad we did.

Speaking of subcontractors, treat everyone who works on your house well. While our house was under construction, we traveled to Teton Valley once a month to check on the build and make purchases and decisions. Every time we made an on-site visit we made it a habit to treat whoever was working that day with pizza, donuts, coffee, cupcakes, etc. Those times sitting around enjoying food together were filled with invaluable local insights that helped us be more involved with the building of our home, and feel more at home here in Teton Valley.

The last lesson I will share from my own experience is don’t skimp and think to yourself “I’ll do that later.” Most builders will tell you that adding features during the initial construction of the home will end up being much less expensive, easier, and less invasive than putting it off down the line. Pay extra to have things done right at the beginning: get the whole-house generator, add on the bonus room, add A/C now. You won’t regret it.   I’m not an expert, but I am someone who successfully purchased the perfect land in an area I love, built the home of my dreams, and created a life that my family and I love more each day. When Tayson asked me to share what I learned during that process, I was happy to do, and I hope some of these tips help others like me.

What’s it cost to build a house around here? (2022)

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I’ve always got to start with my typical disclosures. I’m obviously not a builder, but I work closely with builders and stay in touch with customers that have projects in the works. I always tend to have a few projects going on myself, as well.

I wrote an article back in 2015 with information about my experience with the cost of construction. As you probably already know, things have changed quite a bit since then. In addition, a good portion of my 2015 project was sweat equity. I later constructed another small home in 2017, and I should have updated this article then as I relied more heavily on subcontractors, though I acted as the general contractor in both circumstances. I later again acted as my own contractor during an extensive remodel of my 1980s home, and I am currently closely involved in a project with a general contractor.

Getting back to the nuts and bolts, the cost of construction has gone up pretty dramatically. Obviously there are a few things at play here including material costs, supply shortages on both materials and labor, not to mention the cost of living which has changed pretty significantly since 2015. This definitely trickles down to the cost of labor as well. To have some fun, I looked at some of the material costs from my previous projects. I decided to use 7/16 OSB or sheeting as my “gold standard”. That may not be totally accurate across the board for all lumber and materials, but it’s a good indication as to what’s going on.

7/16 OSB, 2015-2022
2015: $9.22
2017: $14.71
2021: $23.99*
2022: $60 +/-

Materials
To be fair, that 2021 price is… not fair. If you were watching, you might remember there was a lumber bubble that popped in the Fall of 2021, and we all thought that may be a tipping point on material costs. That assessment was incorrect, as things jumped right back up to a high point, and continued that trajectory. The interesting point was how much that drop in lumber prices could impact a typical 2000 square foot home. The answer (in rough numbers) was about $15,000. Obviously some great savings in that scenario, but it’s probably not going to make or break the bank in the scheme of a large (or even a small) project. When we look at all material costs, you can see where it all starts to add up. Virtually everything is in high demand and is experiencing some sort of shortage. Appliances, tile, drywall, copper, plumbing materials, whatever. When you add it all up, it’s pretty significant.

Labor
As mentioned, the cost of living and therefore the cost of labor trickles down to costs; and can have a pretty significant impact on them. If a concrete company’s cost of labor goes up 20% because the cost of living is up 20% (realistically more) the contractor can’t just absorb that cost. Here again, concrete, framing, roofing, mechanical/electrical/plumbing… the list goes on. The biggest contributor to the issues described?

Supply and Demand
Supply of rental homes is extremely low. Supply of existing homes for sale is low. Materials, labor, contractors, everything is in low supply. Demand? You guessed it, through the roof – pun intended. While the lack of supply has a direct impact on the cost of materials and labor, there are indirect costs as well. If I can sell my used car for 10% more than I paid new, I am absolutely going to do that. In addition, I think there is likely some price gouging going on out there. Regardless, the bottom line is that people in small communities make their living when the economy is doing well. I’m not just speaking for myself when I talk (or think) about slow times.

What gives?
It’s interesting to read articles about economic cycles and what seems to be a universal opinion that times are different in terms of a potential real estate recession. Supply is still extremely low today. However, while leading up to the recession in the mid-2000s, supply was out of whack. Regardless, I’ll never make a steadfast economic prediction – and I’ll never promise that a recession won’t happen. That said, I do believe that rising interest rates will create some affordability issues (who am I kidding, there are already pretty significant affordability issues) that will tamp down the demand for construction which is already expensive. I also believe that notwithstanding prices rising so quickly, I do believe the pandemic created some shelter, keeping things in control because costs increased so significantly. With these changes in our economy, we can only hope to see some relief to balance the market. If this occurs, it will undoubtedly help stabilize some of these crazy construction prices.

Okay, I’m done blabbing about the stuff you probably already know.

So what’s it cost?
I didn’t reread my article, but I recall building my first project pretty affordably, keeping in mind that I did so much of that work myself. Costs obviously went up in 2017, and I do remember it getting more difficult to line up contractors – there was quite a bit more construction happening then. A few other considerations, some builders calculate a basic garage in their square footage cost estimate and I think you could accomplish that with the numbers below assuming modest construction, keeping in mind that Teton Valley’s modest construction tends to be a little on the “higher end” side of things including better heating systems, insulation, etc. Most of the contractors here use 5/8 drywall, 12 gauge wiring, and so on.

The Numbers

2015: $250/SqFt
2017: $310/SqFt
2022: $420/SqFt

Roofs, Property Value and Peace of Mind

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A family friend reached out a few weeks back about the potential impact of a certain roofing system compared with another and how it might impact the value of their property down the line. It resonated with me as I am currently in the process of replacing the original roof on my 35-year-old home. My own experience has been somewhat tempestuous as we struggled with replacing an uncommon roof type and battling some significant damage we uncovered along the way. My home is an old family cabin that my wife and I have renovated over several years, and the old roof was an uncommon stone coated metal cold roof. We don’t have any plans to sell, so resale wasn’t on our minds. We wanted something that would blend in with the forest setting and perform well for a long period of time for the reasons mentioned above. Ultimately, we chose a very thick, shake-like asphalt shingle. We simplified the roof rakes and beefed up the Boston ridge to create a slightly more modern look, which we are happy with. In our case, we probably did increase the value of our home, and we are happy with the look of the new shingles even though we were concerned with it.

Anyway, when comparing the two roofing systems my friend was considering I didn’t feel one would significantly change the property’s value. In their case neither option would have been unusual for the home, but one was clearly more expensive. It was difficult for me to answer whether or not they would see a return on the investment for the more expensive roofing system. To answer the question, this is where I shifted focus to the overall picture. Sometimes certain home improvements, materials used or construction methods do not have a direct impact on a property’s value, but can when viewed in conjunction with the rest of the home and it’s finishes. I distinctly remember an incredible custom home of which the owner spared no change or effort throughout, but installed vinyl floors which was (honestly) just his preference. However, when helping him with the sale, it was a sticking point when comparing the finishes through the rest of the home on such a high dollar listing. Similarly, I remember walking through a property where the owner did some light renovations in anticipation of a sale. The fresh paint was great, but the Viking dishwasher felt odd to me. Yes, it was undoubtedly expensive and was certainly a talking point, but it didn’t fit well with the rest of the finishes and I don’t think that homeowner saw a return on that investment. The moral of the story, underdoing it and overdoing it are both bad, but in different ways.

Okay, if you’re still reading, on to the peace of mind part. I have probably written about this in other articles, but I wanted to touch on a few other considerations, particularly as we see new construction ticking up.

1) Snow slides. In my case, a metal roof was not an option. I have a wraparound deck that the snow would absolutely destroy in the event it were to slide off. My old roof never slid, and I hope my new roof never slides. In other cases, you want the snow to slide. Low roof pitches or shed roofs can be a good example.

2) Ventilate! I can’t think of very many circumstances where I would not recommend installing a ventilated or cold roof to help mitigate ice damming. This will usually include some form of screen or vent along the roof soffit and a vent in the gable ends or along the ridge of the home.

3) Ice Damming. Believe it or not, we get snow and ice up here. I believe code requires ice and water shield along the roof edges and valleys, but I usually suggest putting it everywhere, if you can. There are better ways to prevent ice damming as mentioned above in the ventilation section, but make sure you are protected in the areas mentioned and it never hurts to have the extra protection, particularly on roofs with a lower pitch.

4) Pitch. Speaking of pitch, be careful with this one. The modern, low sloping or flat roof systems are becoming more and more popular, but they can pose significant challenges when it comes to snow accumulation and ice damming. I’ll never forget all of the struggles I’ve had over the years with commercial building management where flat roofs with drain systems are common. The moral of that story, make sure you have heat tape in those drains, and monitor them closely. It doesn’t take long for these to plug up with ice creating a swimming pool on top of your roof.

As a final bit and disclosure, I’m a real estate agent, not a roofer. I have experience with some of these things, but am in no means an expert when it comes to the construction types and methods best for your situation. Always consult with your contractor and local roofer, and keep in mind our unique climate when it comes to architects. People tend to bring their local architect with them from dramatically different climates which can often lead to incompatibility with local contractors and issues with construction methods down the line.

Will Renovations Pay for Themselves?

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This article, like many that I have written over the past 12 or 14 months may not be as relevant one year from now as it is today, but I have given the same advice on many occasions throughout my career in real estate.

The question is (as I renovate my own home) is it worth it? In my case, I am updating a kitchen that is as old as I am, and was somewhat budget oriented to begin with. It’s not that I don’t care what it might cost, but rather, I do not care as much about the value it will add to the home as I don’t plan to sell anytime soon. If you have the same mindset, I say go for it. Generally real estate improvements will at least pay for themselves, unless you’re doing something that is highly specified to your style or needs.

What about for resale? In this case, it depends on the market, and particularly right now, timing. At the moment (and I suspect you have noticed) appliances, carpet, roof shingles, windows… everything is in short supply and high demand. Similarly, labor is in short supply and as a result everything is far more expensive than it was a few Summers ago. It’s a seller’s market today and timing, coupled with supply and labor shortages is not on your side. With this combination, my current recommendation would be to leave well enough alone (if it is well enough) with the exception of a few examples below. In markets where time and materials are easier to come by, I think renovations should be considered on a case-by-case basis. Either way, the examples below well usually equate to a net gain.

1) Paint, where it needs it. Changing the laundry room from green to blue probably isn’t going to make a huge difference, and your time might be better spent cleaning the basement. On the other hand, freshening up a small room with an out-of-date color or poor paint job isn’t a bad idea. Another important aspect to painting is quality – tape those edges and use a hard, fine line brush where you can’t. Prime over top of those dark colors, and always do two coats.

2) Appliances, if you need them. It’s hard to get rid of a great appliance, they don’t make them like they used to. That being said, there’s something about those quiet dishwashers and stainless steel french door refrigerators that buyers tend to notice. Again, add a month to whatever delivery time estimate you receive.

3) Your trade, but be careful with this one! We live in an area that provides skilled labor for high-end real estate and as a result many are capable of improving some aspects of their homes. Why careful? I have seen plenty of hardwood flooring contractors “showcasing” their abilities in their own homes. While the herringbone transition to a diamond pattern of oak and dark walnut is respectable in terms of the skill, it’s probably not what buyers are looking for. Keep it clean, don’t overdo it.

4) Clean, this one is free (kind of). Declutter, depersonalize and freshen things up. buyers open closet doors, pantries, garages. This one is huge, and it might even help showcase how big a space is that otherwise might look smaller than it is.

5) Kitchens, bathrooms… I’ll bet if you hop online and do a quick search, this is going to be the first thing that comes up. True, buyers love fancy kitchens and shiny new bathrooms – but it’s hard right now. Things will get back to normal, but even in “normal” times, getting work done in a rural/resort area like this is difficult and expensive. It always has been, and it always will be. On that note, it’s easy to blow the budget and not be able to recover all of, or as much of the cost that you had hoped. Also keep in mind that these projects are often like picking at a scab. It’s never as simple as, “let’s replace the countertops!” Further, I’ve heard buyers ask why a seller would put such nice countertops on top of old, out of date cabinets. That’s a loss in my book. If a customer is questioning an investment you’ve made, you may have been better served not doing it in the first place.

I’m sounding a little pessimistic, but it’s probably my mood after wrapping up my own project. To be clear, I would rather sell a house with a new kitchen and master bath, and you will probably net out positive. Just remember the timing aspect mentioned above. Note that in any market things are probably going to take longer than you had hoped, and cost more than you expected. The best thing you can do is ask for your real estate professional’s advice before pulling the trigger if it’s strictly to improve the value of your home before listing it for sale.

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