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Fields and Fields… of Fields

April 10, 2023 By Tayson Rockefeller Leave a Comment

No, I’m not talking about all of the so-called empty subdivisions better known as “fields”. Today, I am talking about form fields.

When a real estate agent gets a new listing the agent usually enters the listing data into the local MLS which includes all of the property information, uploads photos and documents, then clicks the magical submit button which syndicates the listings to various marketing platforms like Trulia, Zillow, and brokerage websites like TetonValleyRealty.com. When a consumer views a listing on one of these various marketing platforms, they can see the data entered by the real estate agent. The data is usually entered into predefined fields within the agent’s MLS software.

Most local agents spent quite a bit of time and entering these listings to make sure that we are not misrepresenting the data displayed to the public. Almost all of the form fields require some sort of input before the listing can be submitted. If an agent doesn’t know the answer (or in some events think they know the answer), this data is sometimes inadvertently misrepresented. I would like to think I know my way around local real estate, but even I have been guilty of this.

Because of this, there are many circumstances when I find myself arguing with a prospective Buyer about certain amenities that a property does, or does not have. Some of these are obvious, such as the view. If the listing says it has a Teton view when it in fact does not, it’s a pretty easy argument. Some, however, take a bit more time to research. I have seen listings state that water systems are available when they are not, and vice versa. These amenities (or lack of amenities) can have a significant impact on the perceived value of the property.

In the event of an advertisement error or misrepresentation, what recourse would a Buyer or Seller have? The answer (in my opinion, and depending on the situation) is; not much. Not only does the MLS and most of the advertising platforms have a disclaimer with respect to information being “reliable, but not guaranteed”, but the real estate purchase forms also have statements advising a buyer to perform their own home inspections and verify issues related to the home, including the square footage.

Sellers
My advice to Sellers in these situations is simple, closely review the data entered by your real estate agent to verify its accuracy.

Buyers
My advice to Buyers would be to query your agent and perform your own inspections to the best of your ability, and watch out for things that might be too good to be true. Most agents (particularly local agents) will not only normally have a sense as to the overall accuracy, but will also know what resources and contacts to provide for this research. I mentioned water systems above because it’s an easy box to check or not to check with respect to an available public water system or connections. Other common errors include miscalculating square footage, homeowners association dues, whether or not short-term rentals are allowed, if propane tanks are leased or owned, the allowance of horses, and connectivity for hi-speed internet.

It’s also important to remember that some things are negotiable. If a listing says that the furnishings are included, but your agent does not include the furnishings or a bill of sale for the furnishings in the offer, you may be left without them. The same goes for appliances, and other personal property.

What I’ve Learned About Ice Dams

April 3, 2023 By Tayson Rockefeller Leave a Comment

Every Winter this comes up. As a Realtor and property manager, I’ve had plenty of firsthand experience here. I think the best way to categorize this article is to break it into two parts; prevention during construction, and repair measures to address ice dams that form after construction. First, let’s go over what an ice dam is, and why it occurs.

Ice damming, what is it, and why does it occur?

Most homes have a roof overhang that extends behind the house. The area that extends beyond the house is not heated whereas the area directly above the living area of the home will inevitably realize some heat loss. As that heat rises into the attic space above the ceiling and insulation, it ultimately reaches the bottom side of the roof which will begin to melt the snow on the roof. The water then begins to travel down the roof. As it reaches the unheated portion of the roof overhang, it re-freezes. This is where an ice dam is formed. The longer this occurs, the further the ice backs up towards the heated portion of the roof, possibly finding an entry point for water into the living areas of the home.

New Construction

It’s impossible to predict where or how an ice dam is going to form. However, we can take some preventive steps, and it’s best to pay special attention to the North side of your project where the roof will see the least amount of sun to help melt away snow and ice. The first line of defense is going to be proper soffit and roof ventilation. If you can prevent the residual heat from warming the underside of the roof and melting snow, we can minimize the amount of ice that will form it on the unheated areas of the roof. This can be done a few different ways.

Ventilation

Usually a proper roof ventilation system will include soffit vents on the underside of the unheated roof overhang portion of the roof as well as roof vents near the top or highest point of the roof where rising heat can escape. Normally your insulator will install what are called “baffles” which prevent the insulation that will be later added from covering the vents in the soffit or roof overhang. It is absolutely key that you have this section inspected before and after insulation (if possible) to ensure that the baffles are not crushed or moved during the insulation process, thus covering the vents and not allowing airflow. I have also seen additional venting in gable ends and even power vent fans to help push the warm air out of the attic cavity. Understanding that not all roof designs have an attic, it doesn’t necessarily mean that the roof cannot be ventilated. I have built shed roof style homes and installed plywood to create a small gap the full length of the roof from the bottom end all the way up to the ridge to add a layer of air ventilation just as a precautionary measure, even on a roof that would normally slide snow such as a metal roof.

Insulation

Insulation is one of those sensitive topics with me. I have my own opinions on insulation types and where they are best applied, but I’ll save that for another article. If you do have a home design with an attic, it’s more affordable than you might think to add more insulation than the building code requires. If we can slow down the heat loss into the attic, we can slow down how much snow begins to melt on the underside of the roof. While the code does require substantial insulation in roofs in our area, there’s good reason to consider overdoing it if you’re going to upgrade something.

Ice and water shield

Most builders will install a waterproof membrane from the roof’s edge beyond the habitable space in the house. As the water backs up, it will be stopped by this impermeable layer, or at least that’s the idea. With every construction job that I’ve been involved with, I’ve opted for ice and water shield on the entire surface of the roof. Yes, this is an added cost. However, ice dams aren’t the only things that cause leaks and the extra insurance might be something to consider.

Existing Construction

The more time you spend in Teton Valley the more you will realize that not every winter is the same. One season might not create any ice damming issues while the next creates significant problems. It’s all about freeze/thaw, temperature, sun, snow load, the list goes on. That being said, almost everybody is going to experience an ice damming problem if they form a long-term relationship with Teton Valley. If you do, I think it’s important to look at causation and repair options.

What is causing the ice dam?

We can go back to the new construction measures to see if they were properly applied with the existing construction. Usually attic spaces are accessible (even though it isn’t very much fun) and those insulation baffles, assuming they exist, can sometimes be inspected after the fact. If one finds that there is no attic ventilation or poor ventilation, roof vents or gable vents can be added after the fact relatively easily. It’s a great time to assess the damage in the Winter months, and be prepared to make repairs in the Summer months when it is safer to do so.

Remedy Option 1, Vents

As mentioned above, roof vents can be installed after the fact. This can be great option to help expel some of the heat out of the attic space. In extreme cases where ventilating the existing roof is impossible, there have been projects (even locally) that have built a replacement roof on top of the existing roof that is ventilated to provide that much needed air gap.

Remedy Option 2, Heat cable

Sometimes heat cable is a necessary evil. We tend to avoid it or turn it off because of the cost, but if it saves us from expensive damages inside our home, it may be the only option available. Heat tape comes in many forms from budget DIY to professionally engineered and installed systems. Further, these systems can be installed with a simple electrical outlet, or hardwired into a 220 volt breaker. The severity of the issue is usually an indicator as to which direction might be best. Either way, remember to extend the heat cable beyond the unheated portion of the roof to above the heated portion for the most effective results.

Remedy Option 3, Shoveling and/or Steaming

Roof shoveling (be sure to consider someone who is insured) can be an easy and effective remedy, especially when an issue is discovered mid-season. In addition, roof steaming is an effective option to remove stubborn ice dams without damaging your roof, but it’s usually an expensive one.

Obviously I am a Realtor, not a builder. Check with your contractor on these ideas, and be careful!

What do you consider Peak season?

November 7, 2022 By Tayson Rockefeller Leave a Comment

One of the most frequently asked questions I get pertains to the seasons. I wear multiple hats around the office. Sometimes I provide insight for the property management team. Other times, I may be working the administrative or brokerage side of the business. In addition, and like any real estate agent, I’m always working “sales”. Interestingly, the property management side assumes that Winter is the big season, and the sales side customers assume Summer is the big season.

I’m not going to pull metrics to try to prove my point when it comes to rentals, I can assure you that the Summer months are the busiest. The property management team is reeling with PTSD by the time October rolls around, normally to be reminded of how much of a pain property management can be through the Winter months.

I can vividly remember researching this very topic on the sales side some years ago and determining that there were more sales that Winter season than the Summer prior. This instance most certainly occurred post 2008 and pre-2020, and I don’t recall any volatile years in between. That said, I can also distinctly recall dozens, if not hundreds of instances where home or land sellers discuss taking listings off the market as winter approaches, with the strong opinion that things do indeed congeal as the temperatures drop.

Okay, enough already. Here are the stats. I’m working off of the Teton board of realtors MLS and including all of the areas served (Teton Valley, Jackson, Alpine and surrounding areas), and I am not breaking this down by property type (give me a break, it’s 11:00 p.m. on Sunday). Also, I’ve decided to base Summer sales on June 1st through November 30th, and Winter December 1st through May 30th.

2018
Winter sales: 788
Summer sales: 1,146

2019
Winter sales: 711
Summer sales: 1,177

2020
Winter sales: 686
Summer sales: 2,255

2021
Winter sales: 1,676
Summer sales: 1,782

2022
Winter sales: 1,151
Summer sales: 894

There you have it. 2022 is obviously an anomaly with a changing market on the heels of the post covid real estate craze, as was likely my aforementioned vivid memory – unless it’s not a memory at all… At any rate, just because there are more sales that occur during the Summer season, does not mean that homes should not be listed for sale during the Winter months as 2022 easily illustrates. Further, more sales does not necessarily equate to a higher sales price. Often competing with less inventory in the Winter can benefit one looking to sell.

What’s it cost to build a house around here? (2022)

April 2, 2022 By Tayson Rockefeller Leave a Comment

I’ve always got to start with my typical disclosures. I’m obviously not a builder, but I work closely with builders and stay in touch with customers that have projects in the works. I always tend to have a few projects going on myself, as well.

I wrote an article back in 2015 with information about my experience with the cost of construction. As you probably already know, things have changed quite a bit since then. In addition, a good portion of my 2015 project was sweat equity. I later constructed another small home in 2017, and I should have updated this article then as I relied more heavily on subcontractors, though I acted as the general contractor in both circumstances. I later again acted as my own contractor during an extensive remodel of my 1980s home, and I am currently closely involved in a project with a general contractor.

Getting back to the nuts and bolts, the cost of construction has gone up pretty dramatically. Obviously there are a few things at play here including material costs, supply shortages on both materials and labor, not to mention the cost of living which has changed pretty significantly since 2015. This definitely trickles down to the cost of labor as well. To have some fun, I looked at some of the material costs from my previous projects. I decided to use 7/16 OSB or sheeting as my “gold standard”. That may not be totally accurate across the board for all lumber and materials, but it’s a good indication as to what’s going on.

7/16 OSB, 2015-2022
2015: $9.22
2017: $14.71
2021: $23.99*
2022: $60 +/-

Materials
To be fair, that 2021 price is… not fair. If you were watching, you might remember there was a lumber bubble that popped in the Fall of 2021, and we all thought that may be a tipping point on material costs. That assessment was incorrect, as things jumped right back up to a high point, and continued that trajectory. The interesting point was how much that drop in lumber prices could impact a typical 2000 square foot home. The answer (in rough numbers) was about $15,000. Obviously some great savings in that scenario, but it’s probably not going to make or break the bank in the scheme of a large (or even a small) project. When we look at all material costs, you can see where it all starts to add up. Virtually everything is in high demand and is experiencing some sort of shortage. Appliances, tile, drywall, copper, plumbing materials, whatever. When you add it all up, it’s pretty significant.

Labor
As mentioned, the cost of living and therefore the cost of labor trickles down to costs; and can have a pretty significant impact on them. If a concrete company’s cost of labor goes up 20% because the cost of living is up 20% (realistically more) the contractor can’t just absorb that cost. Here again, concrete, framing, roofing, mechanical/electrical/plumbing… the list goes on. The biggest contributor to the issues described?

Supply and Demand
Supply of rental homes is extremely low. Supply of existing homes for sale is low. Materials, labor, contractors, everything is in low supply. Demand? You guessed it, through the roof – pun intended. While the lack of supply has a direct impact on the cost of materials and labor, there are indirect costs as well. If I can sell my used car for 10% more than I paid new, I am absolutely going to do that. In addition, I think there is likely some price gouging going on out there. Regardless, the bottom line is that people in small communities make their living when the economy is doing well. I’m not just speaking for myself when I talk (or think) about slow times.

What gives?
It’s interesting to read articles about economic cycles and what seems to be a universal opinion that times are different in terms of a potential real estate recession. Supply is still extremely low today. However, while leading up to the recession in the mid-2000s, supply was out of whack. Regardless, I’ll never make a steadfast economic prediction – and I’ll never promise that a recession won’t happen. That said, I do believe that rising interest rates will create some affordability issues (who am I kidding, there are already pretty significant affordability issues) that will tamp down the demand for construction which is already expensive. I also believe that notwithstanding prices rising so quickly, I do believe the pandemic created some shelter, keeping things in control because costs increased so significantly. With these changes in our economy, we can only hope to see some relief to balance the market. If this occurs, it will undoubtedly help stabilize some of these crazy construction prices.

Okay, I’m done blabbing about the stuff you probably already know.

So what’s it cost?
I didn’t reread my article, but I recall building my first project pretty affordably, keeping in mind that I did so much of that work myself. Costs obviously went up in 2017, and I do remember it getting more difficult to line up contractors – there was quite a bit more construction happening then. A few other considerations, some builders calculate a basic garage in their square footage cost estimate and I think you could accomplish that with the numbers below assuming modest construction, keeping in mind that Teton Valley’s modest construction tends to be a little on the “higher end” side of things including better heating systems, insulation, etc. Most of the contractors here use 5/8 drywall, 12 gauge wiring, and so on.

The Numbers

2015: $250/SqFt
2017: $310/SqFt
2022: $420/SqFt

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